Star Trek VI The Undiscovered Country : Star Trek Generations : Symbiosis.
In the year 2293, the Enterprise-B is commissioned, but the maiden voyage becomes a rescue mission when two ships with El-Aurian refugees are about to be crushed in an energy ribbon. In the course of this mission Captain Kirk is apparently killed when he works on a deflector modification and vanishes through a hull breach.
78 years later: The Enterprise-D investigates an attack on the Amargosa research outpost and barely escapes the explosion of the Amargosa central star. The El-Aurian Soran, with help from the renegade Klingons Lursa and B'etor, is responsible for the destruction of whole solar systems.
His intention is to return into the Nexus, the energy ribbon moving through the galaxy that he once experienced 78 years ago. In his effort to stop him and save the Veridian system, Picard seeks help from Kirk, who has actually spent the last 78 years inside the Nexus. They succeed, but Kirk loses his life, and after a skirmish with the Klingons the Enterprise-D saucer crashes on Veridian III.
Errors and Explanations
Internet Movie Database
- One of the journalists refers to Chekov as "Captain", even though he wears the rank insignia of a Commander. The journalist must have thought Chekov had received promotion to the rank of Captain, bringing him level with Kirk and Scotty (assuming the journalist was addressing Chekov, and not Kirk).
- On the Enterprise-B, Ensign Sulu says that the starboard ship is collapsing. What we see on the screen is the ship exploding on our left, the port side of the ship. She is referring to the ship on the starboard side of the formation. The port/starboard directions are always given from the FRONT of the starship. So, in this scene, with the Enterprise-B facing the ships, their port/starboard directions are reversed, meaning that if the ship to their port side exploded, it is, in fact, the starboard ship of the facing formation, because port and starboard are always based on where the front of the vessel that is being talked about is pointing.(Explanation from wizard_of_gore via Movie Mistakes)
- When the Klingons are observing the display from Lt. Commander La Forge's compromised visor, the tactical display, and the comment from one of the Klingons is that the "Shield Modulation" is 257.4MHz. That is a frequency, not a type of modulation; i.e. AM, FM, F1B, etc. Certain modulations operate over a set frequency band.
Incorrectly regarded as goofs
- The toaster in Kirk's house may look like a Dualit, which doesn't "pop up" when done toasting. When done this model keeps the toast inside to keep it warm. There's a manual lever to raise the toast for removal. (IMDB) We are several hundred years in the future, even in Kirk's time. How can we know this toaster does not operate the way we see it in the movie?
- The Guinan who appears inside the Nexus tells Picard that she is an "echo" or a part of herself the real Guinan left behind when she was beamed away onto the Enterprise-B. Obviously Picard was not yet born by then and Guinan would not have known him 80 years ago, so how would she know Picard once he's inside the Nexus, if she didn't known him when she was in there herself? (IMDB) They did meet before in TNG: Time's Arrow Part 1 and Part 2. Guinan tells Picard if he does not go on this mission they would never meet. They actually meet in the 1800s. In Ten-Forward, Picard is unnerved by a conversation with Guinan, who insists he break with tradition and accompany the Away Team back to the 19th century. Although she can give him no explanation. Guinan fails to recognize Data, but she is not shocked when he tells her that they serve together on the same starship in the 24th century. She listens with great concern to his story, subtly revealing that she, too, is not from Earth.
- When Geordi returns to the Enterprise after his capture on the Klingon Bird of Prey, he is seen talking to Data in sickbay. Geordi is wearing the older Starfleet uniform (yellow jumper with black shoulders) but in the next scene when he walks into Engineering, he is seen wearing the newer uniform with the colors inverted (black jumper with yellow shoulders). (IMDB) One of the comments made by the Klingons while monitoring his activities is a recount of what he had done since leaving Sickbay. B'Etor first commented that "He bathed," so it's not unexpected that he would have changed uniforms.
- During the saucer separation sequence, there is a brief shot from under the Enterprise showing the saucer leaving the stardrive section. In that shot, what appear to be stars can be seen through the saucer itself, seemingly, due to ineffective or incorrect compositing. (IMDB) Some of these 'stars' appear to move, suggesting they are in fact jetsam being released from the docking area.
- In Descent Part 2, the emotion chip was damaged when Data shot Lore, but in the movie it appears to be intact and ready for use. Although Data might have repaired it, this discontinuity is never addressed. Moreover, the chip in the movie looks nothing like the one in the series. Perhaps the emotion program was restored and transferred to another chip, built to specifications left by Dr. Soong before he died.
- On the Enterprise B a science officer says: "The Lakul is one of two ships transporting El-Aurian refugees to Earth". If people knew about El-Aurian refugees in the 23rd century, they should have also known about what made them refugees, i.e. they shouldn't have learned about the Borg only in the 24th century. No reason is given as to why all El-Aurians would hide this information for a century.Who says they didn't mention it? How many worlds has the Federation seen destroyed by unknown races? Was there enough evidence beside survivor stories to convince them that the Borg were any worse than the Klingons or Romulans? If so, after 80 years with not even Borg rumors, the information would be gradually forgotten. Besides, the El-Aurians may have chosen not to inform the Federation about the Borg before the encounter at J-25, because they were either suffering from shock, or believed that the Borg had no reason to leave the Delta Quadrant at that time.
- Picard chooses to leave the Nexus with Kirk and go back to Veridian III only minutes before the launch, when he could have picked any time and place he wanted to return and stop Soran. For example, he could go back further in time and simply not allow Soran to go back to the Amargosa observatory. (IMDB) This and any other plan would only postpone the problem - nothing would prevent Soran from trying again, perhaps thinking of something even worse next time. Even if he was convicted for making illegal weapons, he'd be out of prison by the time the ribbon comes back again. Obviously, Picard wanted to get rid of Soran for good, and the only moral (not to mention legal) way for it was to catch him in the act and kill him in a fair fight, so it won't be a murder. It might seem silly at first, but we do know that Starfleet officers take morality and honor (not to mention law) very seriously. Indeed, every time Picard chose to face Soran directly and not ambush him or shoot him in the back, and even then he couldn't kill him, but he did find a clever way around it after all, and that was the only time and place he could've done it.
- In Brothers, Dr. Soong inserts the emotion chip into Lore (who is impersonating Data) inside the side of his neck, yet in this movie, George inserts the emotion chip into a slot on top of Data's head. Although it's possible that the chip can be inserted both ways, such a discrepancy should have been addressed. Soong probably developed several designs for the chip to cover any damage, and left space in Data for them.
The Nitpicker's Guide
Next Generation Trekkers
- Was there a shortage of command level personnel during the selection process for the captaincy of the Enterprise-B? Where did Starfleet dredge up this Harriman guy’? He seems oompletely ﬂustered by the crisis with the El-Aurian transport ships. Even if this is his first time to sit in the big chair, we have seen over and over during the Star Trek saga that many opportunities to command afford themselves to a first officer and even a second officer. ls Harriman‘s ability to command getting delivered on Tuesday as well? [N 1]. It's not surprising Harriman is flustered - there are three living legends and a scrum of reporters on board, his ship is lacking vital equipment and personnel, and he has been forced to rescue a pair of refugee ships from a dangerous energy ribbon!
- Once again the creators would have us believe that Starfleet leaves Earth—the headquarters for the Federation—devoid of starship resources. The transports that carry the El-Aurians are only three light-years from the solar system and the Enterprise-B is the only ship in range (Movie Mistakes)Any full sized starship in Earth orbit would almost certainly be in Spacedock, and it would take quite some time to get even a skeleton crew aboard, to say nothing of going through departure protocols. As for smaller ships, it's been well established that they have lower warp speeds. (Even in The Motion Picture, Spock's shuttle had to be attached to a warp sled to reach the Enterprise at all.)
- Question from Fandom user 18.104.22.168 - if the passengers aboard the 2 transport ships caught in the nexus are "phasing in and out of the space-time continuum" (Scotty's words), why aren't the the crew of the Enterprise-B (along with the reporters) also phasing in and out of the space-time continuum. In other words, why aren't they also experiencing the effects of being caught in the Nexus? Because they are not actually in the Nexus!
- After Scotty suggests rigging the main deflector dish for a resonance burst, Kirk takes off for deck 15 of the Engineering hull and soon reroutes the appropriate controls. Harriman must be really, really understaffed. Moments earlier, helmsman Demora Sulu received a call from Main Engineering. Why not order one of the guys down there to reroute the controls? Aren't they a lot closer to the deflector relays than Kirk, who is all the way up on the main bridge? And wouldn‘t they be much more familiar with the ship and do the work more efficiently? Of course, this begs the question: How did Kirk know how to reroute the controls in the first place? He's retired, and this is a brand-new ship. I realize Kirk is supposed to be a Renaissance man, but wouldn't he constantly have to pore over all the technical updates from Starfleet to be this familiar with a new ship? Kirk is the best choice to reroute the deflector controls - everyone in Main Engineering is busy trying to stop the warp core exploding under the stress, Kirk retired no more than a year before, would still be familiar with the way things work on a Starship, and the technology on the Enterprise-B is not much different from that on the Enterprise-A.
- The news of Robert and René's death is tragic, but isn't Picard's reaction just a little over the top? Think of what this guy has been through. Remember what the Borg did to him? Right after that incident, we see him behind his desk, working. Is it really believable that in the middle of a crisis he would bolt from the bridge and tell Riker to take over?. Not true - with Robert and Rene gone, there is no-one to continue the family line.
- The crew of the Enterprise continues their tradition of depriving their commanding officers of instant access to information. When a nondescript member of the first away mission to the Amargosa Observatory finds a dead Romulan, instead of saying something worthwhile such as “Commander, there's a dead Romulan Up here," he says, "Commander, you’d better take a look at this.". He probably can't believe what he is seeing, and wants Riker and Worf to see for themselves.
- Appreciation for Guinan's observational skills dropped a few notches during this movie. Just after being rescued by the first away team to the Amargosa Observatory, Soran waits in Ten-Forvvard for Picard. He and the captain have an entire conversation, yet Guinan - with all her sensitivities - never notices until Soran sees her and hurries out.. Soran was hiding in the corner, and Guinan was busy serving people before helping La Forge deal with a newly emotional Data.
- Having discovered that the Romulan attackers of the observatory were looking for trilithium, Riker tells Wort to send Data and La Forge over on the next away mission. So...why didn't they go over on the first away mission? [N 2] There may have been no obvious reason to send them.
- Shortly after Data and La Forge find a secret lab on the observatory. Soran punches Geordi and frightens Data into submission. He then proceeds to destroy the nearest star. Didn't Data and La Forge come over with an away team? What happened to the other guys? Did Soran incapacitate them as well?. The other members of the away team could have beamed back from another part of the observatory before Soran fired his probe, which would explain how the transporter chief knew Data and Gordi had not returned.
- Granted, hindsight is always 20/20, but this really wasn't the best time to be doodling around with Data‘s neural net, now, was it’? The observatory had just been attacked by Romulans. and an investigation was in progress. He must believe the emotion chip will give him a better understanding of what is happening.
- This Soran guy is quite the genius. After all, he creates a probe that does essentially the same thing as the Tox Uthat as featured in “Captain's Holiday." But that device isn’t invented by Kal Dano until the twenty-seventh century. Soran is three hundred years ahead of his time! Either Kal Dano developed the Uthat after finding Soran’s hidden notes, Soran developed his probe based on clues about the Uthat, or both.
- One of the major plot problems with the movie comes from Soran‘s method of reentering the Nexus - a place of joy, happiness, and manageable hair according to Lynette Farrand. Picard tries to dissuade Soran from launching the probe that will destroy the Veridian star because it will mean the death of 230 million on Veridian lV. Soran claims that this is the only way to reenter the Nexus. He must change the course of the energy ribbon so it will intersect with Veridian III. Earlier in the show, when Picard asks why Soran couldn't just fly a ship into the energy ribbon, Data replies that all ships encountering the ribbon have been severely damaged or destroyed. Wait a minute: How did Soran get into the Nexus in the ﬁrst place? He got there in a ship. How did Guinan get into the Nexus? She got there in a ship. How did Kirk get into the Nexus? He got there in a ship. Are you beginning to see a pattern? So what if the ships were damaged or destroyed? Soran simply wants to get back to the Nexus. (Then again, why doesn't somebody stick this guy in one of those thruster suits we saw in Star Trek The Motion Picture and fly him into the ribbon?) Soran would have rejected other methods because a) placing a starship within transporter range would risk the ship being destroyed or severely damaged before transport could be completed, b) the energy tendrils along the outer edge of the ribbon could have detonated the power system of a thruster suit or a shuttle, thus destroying them before they could reach the core of the ribbon, which Soran would need to reach in order to enter the Nexus, and c) he would not be able to fit into a class 8 probe.[N 3]
- After Lursa and B’Etor release La Forge, Crusher immediately takes him to sick bay. We join the scene as she briefs him on his condition. As part of this discussion she mentions that she has removed the “nanoprobe.” What nanoprobe? There‘s no mention of a nanoprobe in the movie! [N 4] Soran must have inserted a nanoprobe into La Forge’s heart when we weren’t looking. [N 5]
- As the saucer section of the Enterprise screams through the atmosphere on its way to a crash landing, Riker yells tor everyone to brace for impact. To quote nitpicker David T. Moore, “How does one brace for impact in chairs that roll around and have no restraints?“ The crew could prepare themselves by grabbing the tactical station rail, or lying on the floor next to the wall.
- After realizing that the fantasy of the Nexus isn't real, Picard asks Guinan to come back with him to help him stop Soran. Guinan, actually an echo of Guinan, says she can‘t because she is already there. Well...not really. The Guinan that would be “already there" was blown into itty-bitty pieces when the shock wave hit Veridian III. The Guinan outside the nexus will still be alive, as Picard is planning to return to a point before the shockwave hits.
- These captains of starships need to get out more. Both Picard and Kirk appear in their favorite fantasies wearing Starfleet uniforms! [N 6] ls this really what Picard would wear to open Christmas presents with his children? ls this réally what Kirk would wear as he prepares breakfast for Antonia? They were wearing uniforms when they entered the Nexus.
- At one point, Kirk asks Picard to get some dill spice from a kitchen cabinet. He tells Picard it is on the second shelf to the left. Picard opens the cabinet, reaches to the right, and pulls out the dill. Picard is actually reaching towards the left of the cupboard from the right hand side.
- Picard's choice of when to return to our space-time continuum deserves a bit of scrutiny. He rejoins our time as he struggles to crawl through a small opening beneath Soran's force field. Personally, I think I would return a tad later. Or maybe several hours earlier and arrest Soran in Ten-Forward. Then again, why not oome back a few days earlier and save Robert and Rene from burning? Better yet, why not dispatch Kirk to the maiden voyage of the Enterprise-B and have him sit on his hands while Harriman fidgets, around trying to figure out what to do? In no time, the energy ribbon would destroy the two transporter ships. Soran would be in the Nexus. Guinan would be in the Nexus. True, it would rewrite NextGen history, because Guinan would never have been on the show, but it is a better solution.[N 7]All these suggestions would make the situation worse, not better! For example, leaving Guinan in the Nexus would result in the continuation of the Yesterday's Enterprise timeline, meaning the Enterprise-D would have been destroyed, and the Federation defeated by the Klingons, because Guinan wasn't around to persuade Picard to restore the proper timeline, by sending the Enterprise-C back to defend Narendra III!
- Along the same line, there comes a time during Picard and Kirk’s attempt to stop Soran when it appears likely that they will not succeed. Why not just stop? Let the probe fire. Let the Nexus grab them again. Get together, figure out a better plan, and take a second run at it.[N 8] Picard probably chose this moment in order to distract Soran, so that Kirk can reach the bridge unseen.
- Are we to believe that Starfleet would let the crew take a sabbatical while the new ship gets built? Wouldn't the senior officer be reassigned to other postings? (Not that I want the crew split up, mind you. I like this team!) The crew either received short time assignments while waiting for completion of the Enterprise-E, followed Worf's example and took extended leave, or a combination of the two.
- Near the beginning of the movie, just after Kirk comes on board the Enterprise-B as a dignitary for its maiden voyage, a reporter asks the former captain how he feels considering this is the first Enterprise in thirty years without him in command. The reporter needs to check her facts. According to Star Trek The Motion Picture, William Decker served as captain of the Enterprise prior to Kirk's commandeering her for the mission to V’Ger. And in Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan, Spock served as captain of the Enterprise until Kirk assumed that position after receiving the call from Dr. Carol Marcus.. The reporter is technically correct – the ship Decker and Spock commanded was the refitted NCC-1701 - essentially the same ship Kirk commanded before the refit. This ship was commanded by Kirk during the V’Ger mission, for which Kirk replaced Decker as commander, and later during the Genesis incident, replacing Spock as ship commander - at the letter's insistence in the last case. [N 9]
- In this movie, Soran uses an experimental compound called trilithium to build a probe that can stop all nuclear fusion within a star. Riker reacts with surprise upon hearing the name of the compound. "Trilithium," he says, accentuating the first syllable. No one seems to have heard of this compound before. Oddly enough, terrorists come on board the Enterprise to steal trilithium resin - a by-product of the warp drive - in "Starship Mine." Both Picard and the terrorists refer to it simply as "trilithium." (And it is spelled the same way, in case you are wondering.). Either there is more than one kind of Trilithium, or Riker is not familiar with it. (The latter is more likely, especially if Trilithium is the coincidental translation of the compound's original Romulan name).
- Angry over the Romulan attack on the observatory, Soran punches B'Etor in the mouth as soon as he boards the Klingon Bird-of-Prey. Although Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country featured Klingons with purplish blood, B'Etor has red blood like the rest of us. Differences in Klingon blood could be due to a whole variety of reasons: genetic engineering, Klingons from different regions have different blood, environmental change, etc.
- It is unclear why Starfleet abandoned the Enterprise-B design for Excelsior-class vessels. In NextGen - supposedly set some seventy-five to eighty years later - Excelsior class vessels do not have the angular outcroppings on either side of the belly of the star drive section, like the Enterprise-B. If the Enterprise-B is a later design of the USS Excelsior - as seen in Star Trek III The Search for Spock - shouldn't all the Excelsior class vessels seen in NextGen resemble the Enterprise-B more than the USS Excelsior?. Perhaps after the Nexus incident, Starfleet considered the vulnerability of the secondary hull outcroppings to outweigh the benefits of safety and increased space - at least until the refit of the USS Lakota.
- Starfleet designers often pick unusual places to locate vital equipment. In this movie, Kirk works with the main deflector dish relays and later identities this place as the deflector control room. Just offhand, I would have guessed that this room would be located directly behind the main deflector dish, but it isn't. Instead the designers of the Enterprise-B put the room on the side of the actual dish up at the leading edge of the Engineering hull some distance from the main assembly tor the deflector array. (We find this out when the energy ribbon blows a hole in the lip of the deflector dish and Kirk is sucked into the Nexus.) This could have been an experimental safety measure.
- Did all the lights burn out on the Enterprise~D at the same time? I realize that the subdued lighting is supposed to set the mood for the film, but the change from the television show is a bit drastic.. Maybe Starfleet has instigated an energy efficiency drive!
- Just after Picard leaves the holodeck, the bridge calls down with a distress call from the Amargosa Observatory. Hiker calls for red alert, and the bridge crew hurries to their posts. The action cuts to the main bridge, where everyone shows up in costume—lacking the time to change - even Worf, whose clothes are suddenly dry. Obviously, the holodeck water evaporated as soon as the Klingon slogged off the holodeck. So why didn’t Wesley's clothes go instantly dry when he walked off the holodeck in "Encounter at Farpoint"? Activation of the Holodeck quick dry facility may have been accelerated because of what happened to Wesley in Farpoint. (IMDB) Immediately after Worf's promotion the crew goes to the bridge. Worf, who had just been soaking wet on the holodeck, is now dry, and his knee no longer has red paint on it. However, both water and paint weren't real - they were part of the holographic program, so they vanished the moment Worf exited the holodeck, leaving him clean and dry. Numerous episodes of several series are based on the premise that holographic objects disappear outside of holodecks or out of range of mobile holographic projectors.
- When the away team materializes at the Amargosa Observatory, only Crusher holds a tricorder. If the team is searching for survivors, wouldn't it be a good idea for all of them to have tricorders?Having more that one tricorder scanning in such a confined space could have resulted in confusion due to overlapping signals.
- After misinterpreting Crusher‘s comments on the holodeck and shoving her into the water, Data discusses the situation with La Forge before deciding to install Soong’s emotion chip. He walks to a wall and opens a cabinet. The emotion chip hangs suspended - obviously by a thin thread as it swings back and forth - in a container. The creators have again transformed the chip. It started out as a small metal sphere in Brothers. Then Data displays the damaged emotion chip at the end of Descent Part 2. In that episode, it is a small circle with a pie-shaped wedge removed. In this movie, the emotion chip has suddenly grown to an object approximately one inch square with cylinders embossed on its surface. Soong must have left instructions in the event of the chip becoming damaged, to allow for the fitment of extra circuitry to restore function, while leaving extra space in Data's head to permit installation. It can be reasoned that the cranial slot seen in the movie could be Data's equivalent of a USB port (notice there was more than one). The emotion chip was damaged (as explained in 'Descent'), and it may now be larger because it is placed inside a special corrective unit to enable it to function properly. That unit then fits into the universal port.
- During the scene in stellar cartography when Picard discovers Soran‘s plan, Data needs to reorient the little desk that sits in front of him. Supposedly the desk has some mechanism that causes it to move, but it's pretty obvious that Data is the one providing the locomotion. Perhaps it was designed to be moved by the operator.
- Discussing the effects of the destruction of the Amargosa Observatory‘s star, Data mentions that the Bozeman had to make a course correction. Evidently the ninety-year-old ship is still in service. (Also mentioned in “All Good Things....")[N 10]This could just as easily be a new ship with the same name.
- Continuing on with the scene, Data brings up a graphic of the Veridian system. Without any obvious command from Data, the graphic moves around on the wraparound screen, showing different viewpoints. Yes, it “looks cool." But if l were the user of that system, l would want to throttle the programmer. What's the point of having the graphic continue its movement, especially if the user is trying to look at a specific planet or trying to leave the room? Obviously Stewart and Spiner shot the scene against a blue screen, because if they tried to walk across that little plank between the platform and the door with the graphics moving just as we see it on the film, both of them would tumble off due to vertigo. (Well...maybe Data could make it.) Data could have programmed this without making it obvious.
- The probe that Soran launches from the surface of Veridian III appears to use a chemical propellant. Yet somehow it reaches the Veridian star in about eleven seconds. This is nothing short of amazing! (Actually, more like impossible.) lt takes light eight minutes to get from the sun to Earth. So if Soran fired his probe with its chemical propellant at our sun from Earth and the probe could travel at the speed of light, it would take eight minutes for it to get there. More than that, you couldn‘t see an immediate change because it would take another eight minutes for the diminished light to make it back to Earthl, Now, I realize that Veridian Ill might be closer to its star than Earth is to its sun, but it can't be only eleven light-seconds away, because it's an M-class planet. (Of course, I don’t think anyone would want to sit in the theater for sixteen minutes while Picard and Soran hurled insults at each other and waited for the probe to do its thing.) Soran’s probe may be fitted with either a micro-miniaturised warp drive/transporter combination, some form of time travel system for small, non biological, loads, or both, to allow it to go into the past after it had cleared the planet's atmosphere, thus causing an apparently instant change in the star. (which explains why the star didn't collapse during Soran's second attempt!) Of course, it would normally still take at least several minutes before any effect is seen from the planet, because those effects travel at the speed of light (at most), but for all we know (assuming the lack of time travel system for the warhead) that's exactly what happened. Although only a few seconds of movie time pass between the launch and the implosion, the latter is in the next cut. The rocket's contrail is gone in the second cut, indicating that some time has passed between the cuts. And since Picard could do nothing after launch but standing helplessly, there would be no point in wasting movie time on this period.
- At one point Picard offers himself in exchange for La Forge, currently held by Lursa and B’Etor. The Duras sisters agree, and moments later Picard steps onto the transporter pad. As he dematerializes, La Forge rematerializes and collapses. Then Picard materializes on the surface of Veridian III without his communicator. This makes sense. Lursa and B’Etor probably removed the communicator to hinder the crew of the Enterprise in their efforts to find Fﬁcard. There's only one problem. Picard materializes in a blue Starfleet transporter pattern. If the Enterprise beamed him down to this location, why can't they find him again, and where is his communicator? Shouldn't Picard rematerialize on the surface in a yellow Klingon transporter pattern? He must have contacted the transporter operator on route to the transporter room, and issued instructions to program the transporter to remove his combadge during transport to the coordinates provided by the Klingons. (We know the Klingons provided the coordinates, as the operator says 'Receiving the coordinates now, Captain' while Picard is stepping onto the Transporter Pad. Picard agreeing to have his combadge removed during transport could have been a concession, designed to persuade Lursa and B'tor to transmitt Soran's location to Enterprise.)
- La Forge returns to the Enterprise with a modified VISOR that transmits a visual picture to the Enterprise. Yet no one on the Enterprise seems to notice. (In all fairness, I suppose we could say that the guy who would normally catch this type of transmission would be Data, but he is feeling so overjoyed that his buddy has returned safely that he may not be up to his usual efficiency.) Soran's modifications must have included a means of masking the transmission.
- The crew of the Enterprise puts in a pitiful showing when trying to locate Picard on the surface of Verldlan Ill. Granted, the atmospheres ionization supposedly interferes with the sensors, but Soran has a 50-gigawatt force field in place on the surface. Why in the world can't the Enterprise sensors pick that up?. Soran must have incorporated a dampening effect.
- Does anyone else find it amazing that something as important and potentially lethal to the ship as the shield modulation frequency is openly displayed in Engineering for anyone to see (like the Borg visitors in Q Who)?. The engineering crew of a starship sometimes have to monitor the modulation of the shield frequency.
- For some reason, Riker, Data, La Forge, and Worf all seem to forget that they can remodulate the shield frequency after the first two Klingon photon torpedoes hit the Enterprise. The torpedo impacts might have disrupted the shield control systems.
- Worf seems to forget that Riker orders a full spread of photon torpedoes for the cloaking Bird-of-Prey. Instead, he fires only one. Riker pointed out that Worf only had one shot at destroying the Bird of Prey before it became fully cloaked. (IMDB) Evidently Worf was confident that a single torpedo would do the job (and he was right). Being the tactical officer, that's his right to make such a call (perhaps one torpedo is easier to target than a spread). And since Riker actually said to prepare a spread, not to fire one, then technically Worf didn't even disobey an order. In addition, Enterprise has been shot by the bird of prey a number of times. It's possible that the torpedo launchers are damaged at this point.
- And Riker and La Forge seem to forget that they could eject the warp core instead of taking a course of action that trashes the entire ship. (Yet, somehow, I doubt the review board investigating this incident will remember any of these things either!) Either the warp core ejection system was jammed due to battle damage, or the crew didn't want to risk the core causing an environmental disaster by exploding in the atmosphere.
- Why did the bubble window in the top of the bridge break? It sits on the very top of the saucer section. I didn't see anything hit that area. Besides, isn't it made from transparent aluminum, like the rest of the windows in the hull? ln the last exterior shot of the crash scene, we see that the windows of Ten-Forward remain intact. Wouldn't they take much more punishment than the bubble window during the crash? The Ten Forward windows received extra protection from the forward shields. Besides, the impact of the collision would likely have severely twisted the structure of the ship. Assuming the material to be brittle, twisting the frame work sufficiently would cause it to shatter.
- Kirk has an interesting clock in his house in the Nexus. It plays the normal tune at the top of the hour and then stops. Since the hands indicate that it is eleven o'clock, one would expect it to chime eleven times.. Perhaps Kirk decided to get a clock that only played the tune.
- Near the end of the movie, Data and Troi search through the rubble of the saucer section,‘looking for Spot. Troi asks Data why he decided not to remove the emotion chip. Wait a minute: Earlier in the movie, Picard said Crusher could not remove the chip because it had fused with his neural network. Did Troi not get this bit of information?. Data says that he wants to be deactivated until Dr. Crusher figures out how to remove the emotion chip. She must have figured out how to do it near the end of the movie, but Data declined. (He must have changed his mind by 2375, because when Picard asks about Data's emotions chip in Star Trek Insurrection, La Forge states "He didn't take it with him").[N 11]
Continuity and Production Problems
- The red-haired navigator aboard the Enterprise-B looks identical to the security officer who escorted Wesley around the Enterprise-D in Peak Performance. Members of the same family, perhaps?.
- For some reason, the communicators suddenly change in this movie. Possibly a fleet-wide communicator upgrade.
- During the first away mission to the Amargosa Observatory, Worf finds Soran buried under some rubble. He bends over to begin uncovering the doctor as Riker approaches. The camera angle changes. Worf is suddenly upright and then bends over again. Probably done to make it easier to remove the debris.
- Why is Crusher evacuating sick bay when it's in the saucer section? Sick Bay is located on deck 12, on the lower half of the saucer section, just forward of the central core, and would therefore absorb most of the impact of the crash.
- So...the new design of the communicators—the one with the rectangle behind the chevron? Was that a Starfleet-wide design change from the oval behind the chevron, or just a communicator change? I ask because at the end of the movie - when Troi and Data ﬁnd Spot - one of the blue barrels behind them has the old oval design They were still useful.
- In the stellar cartography scene, while Data is conversing with Captain Picard about being deactivated, you can see that Data does not have his signature yellow eyed contacts in place. Brent Spiner's eyes are blue. Data's eyes in this scene are not blue, they may be a lighter yellow, but they are yellow.
- During the battle with the Klingon Bird of Prey over Viridian III, the Enterprise-D is shown sustaining hits to its front and rear. The bridge is shown taking damage from a shot fired at the underside of the Enterprise, despite being on the top of the ship and away from the Klingon's fire. Damage, particularly that inflicted by energy-based weaponry, isn't limited to external structural damage. The attack could have blown or disrupted a power conduit and the surge manifested itself on the bridge or the bridge consoles. Even here on present-day Earth, lightning doesn't have to directly strike your television in order to blow it.Corrected by JC Fernandez
- At the end of the film, Captain Picard is shown in a uniform with red on the shoulders and black on the rest (the Star Trek: Voyager/DS9 uniforms), yet when picking through the ruins of the Enterprise, he is seen in a black shoulders/red shirt uniform (the usual TNG uniform). The ship is in ruins: he couldn't have replicated a new uniform as the power is out. Replicators are not the only way for uniforms to be available. He could simply have had spare uniforms in a closet. Or one of the rescue ships could have replicated it for him.Corrected by Guy
- According to the laws of physics, a massive point source should exert the same amount of gravity on an object X distance away as a spherical object of constant density with radius less than X. With this in mind, the Nexus should not have deviated from its course when the star was destroyed (at least until after the shock wave had passed the planet, destroying it along with Soran). One of the major points in Star Trek is that laws of physics can be violated or altered. A possible plausible explanation is that Soran designed the weapon not only to destroy a star, but to change its mass and density in order to deviate the course of the Nexus.
- Geordi has returned to the Enterprise with his visor sending what he is seeing back to the Klingon ship. When Geordie is in Engineering the feed to the Klingon ship shows Geordie standing in front of a console despite the feed coming from Geordi's own visor. No it doesn't. The feed shows another crewmember stepping away from the console as Geordi's view looks down at the panel. Corrected by JC Fernandez
- As Data pulls his emotion chip from the holder, there is a shot of Geordi, and you can see through the visor (and they're not totally white!) You can sort of see through the VISOR, but you can't see anything distinctly. It may just be a reflection of his irises and pupils (which Geordi still has, though discolored) on the surface of his eyes. Corrected by JC Fernandez
- The ribbon obviously moves faster than light (it covers the distance between star systems in a matter of hours), but when it passes Veridian III it moves much, much slower than light. This is a fictional object and, as such, can do whatever the writers need it to do. Perhaps it slows down when it encounters the gravitational forces in a solar system.Corrected by wizard_of_gore
- During Worf's promotion party on the sailing ship, a harbor buoy is seen in the background 20 feet from the ship. No it's not, that's just a piece of the ship.
- Near the end, when Data and Troi are searching through the rubble of the crashed Enterprise, there's a bright blue container in the background that's plugged up with plywood. I've watched the movie several times for this and never seen it. Besides, why can't they have plywood in the future?
- In the final fight between Picard and Soran, the remote control for the rocket falls on the broken bridge. A few shots later, the control is on the other side of the bridge. The camera angle changes so it becomes confusing but it definitely stays on the same side.
- Before Kirk jumps the gap on his horse while in the Nexus, there is a shot from beneath the gap, looking up, and there appears to be a dark colored board or bridge across the gap. When we see Kirk jump the gap, the board is no longer present. Watching carefully, it's still there, it's just that the camera angle changes.
- During the crash sequence on the Enterprise-D, Worf is flying all over the place in the background. Immediately following the star drive's destruction, the shock wave sends Worf flying to his left. He crawls back to his station and then falls to his left again. Immediately following, as Riker is screaming to Deana for a report, you can see Worf's hands holding on to the railing right behind Riker. The next instant he is to the right of his station (our left, bringing himself up) and in the very next scene he is seated at his station. The ship is being violently shaken, it's logical that Worf will be in many different places in a short period of time.
- When Picard first meets Kirk in the Nexus, Kirk's uniform jacket (which he was wearing aboard the Enterprise-B) is seen lying on a nearby rock with the Starfleet insignia pin still on it, but the Insignia pin is pinned to Kirk's vest for the duration of the movie. Everything in the Nexus is an illusion, so the appearance of the insignia pin on the uniform jacket can be discounted.
- It is difficult enough to believe that a missile not much longer than an average car would be capable of destroying a whole star, but if you can swallow that, how come when it does finally explode on the launchpad it only produces enough of a blast to kill the bad guy while Picard and Kirk are presumably only a few yards away behind some rocks? As was discussed in the film, the missile contains stolen trilithium which will set off a destructive chain reaction in the star. The actual explosive yield is negligible, it is not explosives that destroy the star but the chemical chain reaction interfering with the fusion reaction of the star.Corrected by Soylent Purple
- As Picard is walking up Kirk in awe, we find him doing an excellent job of chopping wood. The camera changes to Picard, Kirk, and then to Picard, before finally switching back to Kirk again. After the fourth piece falls he pauses and says 'Beautiful day' and the camera changes, so as to get a shot of both of them. Just after he says that he raises his axe to get ready to chop a piece that wasn't there a split second ago. The Nexus is a projection of the mind. Things can change there instantly, without error. Picard has children, Kirk is in his past. It's all art of the same level of unreality.
- When Picard finally manages to squeeze through the hole in the force-field, and confronts Soran, they have a brawl. The actual time elapsed from the confrontation to the launch (I choose these points as the emergence from The Nexus later to the point when everything is hopeless, respectively), is fifty seconds. When Kirk confronts him after the entire bit in The Nexus, it's actually two minutes and ten seconds before Soran cloaks the missile, and another forty before is launches again after it's been uncloaked. How is this a mistake? Guinan specifically stated that Picard could've left the Nexus to go to any time he wanted, and go anywhere he wanted. Because the sequence after the Nexus is longer than the one before the Nexus, it is safe to assume that Kirk and Picard went back to Veridian III a little bit before the fight sequence before the Nexus. Although one gets the impression from the movie that Kirk and Picard return to the moment of Picard's first confrontation of Soran, it doesn't have to be that way.
- At the very beginning of the movie, we see a bottle of champagne flying in space and crashing upon the hull of the Enterprise-B. Champagne is squirting around. Well, as Khan said, it's very cold in space. The champagne should be frozen and be shattered into little pieces. Even today, they make special (read: cheap) champagne to be used when launching ships that is never intended for drinking. In the future of Star Trek, the need to have a "champagne" that will survive a few moments in space has arisen, so if the champagne is still the same not-intended-for-drinking special brand, it would be conceivable that they added some heavy-duty anti-freeze. Corrected by Twotall
- When Worf, Riker, and Picard are discussing shooting down Soren's missile, Worf say that the missile would take 11 seconds to reach the sun, while locking on to it could take between 8 and 15 seconds. Riker says, "That's a pretty big margin for error," and Picard replies, "Much too big." Of course, the bigger the margin of error for something is, the more likely it is to be successfully accomplished. What they should have said was that it was a small margin for error. A large margin for error being 7 seconds. That means there is a lot of time there to make a mistake. A small margin would be better since it would mean there are fewer seconds in which something could go wrong. There's a difference between a margin OF error and a margin FOR error.
- When Picard and Data are in Stellar Cartography, Picard asks Data to show him what system Nexus will come closest to. He shows him the Veridian system. The planet that Soran wants to be on has 3 moons. When you later see the shock wave hit the planet, destroying it, there are no moons shown in orbit. There are also no moons shown anytime Soran and Picard are on the planet. Moons aren't necessarily visible from the surface of a planet. The moon is only visible because it reflects so much light, something that all moons don't do. In addition, some moons are very small.
- When Data and Troi find Spot, it's right next to several containers clearly marked HAZARDOUS MATERIAL. Don't you think it would be wise to dispose of the hazardous materials, before letting anyone, much less senior officers, poke through the rubble? The containers could be empty or still intact enough to keep the crew safe from the contents. Data and Troi are also searching for survivors using a tricorder, which would notify them if the area was contaminated.
- Soren launches the missile at the sun, the sun blows up, and the planet along with the Enterprise and its crew, are destroyed - the first time around. The movie shows the missile being launched, and a few seconds later (maybe 10) the star blows up - and this is seen in real time on the planet. Forgive me, but even if the missile made it to the star in a few seconds at warp speed, it would still take the light (and thus just about everything else, including gravitational effects) from the star to manifest itself on the planet! (It takes about 8 minutes for the light from our Sun to reach the Earth, for example). I agree that it should take time for the light from the destruction of the star to reach the planet but not the gravitational effects. Things like planets orbit stars not because there is some kind of particle or energy being exchanged between them but because the gravitational field has warped the space they are travelling through. As a result of this when the gravitational field was changed space would have snapped instantly to its new position producing instant gravitational effects. (see Stephen Hawkins:- A Brief History of Time).
- When Data finds Spot after the Enterprise D has crashed he starts to cry, yet in Inheritance, he states he has no tear ducts. Pay close attention to his eyes. You never actually see tears going down his face.
- Picard and Kirk come back from the Nexus to the surface of Viridian III to stop Soren from launching the missile. He can go wherever and whenever he wants, why doesn't he go back to the Enterprise B when Soren was aboard and arrest him without difficulty? Because not only would Picard be trapped 75 years in the past but his presence there would probably contaminate the timeline. That's why he chose to go where he did. And in the end he was able to defeat Soran so any questions of "Why didn't he go back to this time?" are irrelevant.’’
- Let's face it... The battle between the GALAXY-class ship and the TWELVE YR OLD BIRD OF PREY is really ridiculous. The Enterprise has no shields, so what? Does this hinder its weapons? The ship tries to escape and almost doesn´t fire. Why? The flagship of the Federation should be able easily to vaporize that old Klingon vessel with only one big salvo of torpedoes, or by firing phasers permanently (they did the same in the TNG-episode "Yesterday´s Enterprise"), no matter if they have shields or not. The Enterprise in Yesterday's Enterprise would be a very different ship as it's in a timeline that has been at war before Enterprise was made so shields & weaponry technology will become top priority for research & should be stronger & more powerful than our Enterprise. We also know that a lucky shot can knock out weapons or severely damage them so you'd want to make sure your weapons had the best chance of either disabling or destroying the enemy before loosing them & not having any other option.
- When Picard and Kirk are fighting Soran to stop him from launching the rocket that will destroy the planet's sun, what was the big hurry? If they fail, they will be absorbed in the Nexus. Guinan, in the Nexus, said a person leaving the Nexus could time travel to any time period he/she wanted. They could simply keep leaving the Nexus to the same point in time until they destroyed the rocket. Starship captains NEVER think in terms of failure.Corrected by Tailkinker
- In TNG, after the Enterprise defeated the Borg at Earth it became standard Starfleet procedure to modulate shield frequencies to prevent an enemy from matching weapon harmonics to shield frequencies (this allows a weapon to pass through the shields and directly strike the ship) In Generations, the Klingons acquired the Enterprises shield frequencies and matched their weapons to them, thus destroying the Enterprise-D. Yes, but how did they get those frequencies? They were looking through Geordi's eyes. And he is the one most likely to be modulating the shield frequencies. They could have been changing their weapons frequencies as they watched him modulate. Corrected by Garlonuss
- Soran needs to get to the Nexus. There is a planet that the Nexus will miss unless the sun is destroyed, in which case the Nexus will fly right through the planet. So Soran camps out on that planet and tries to destroy the sun. Before he blows up the sun, the nexus is seen flying through the sky BELOW the clouds. This is just not possible. On the Enterprise, Picard and Data study holographic charts that show how huge the Nexus is, and how far away from any clouds the Nexus will miss the planet by. A very large object in space can be seen in the daylight (haven't you ever seen the moon during the day) and appear to be in the atmosphere.
- A small point, but all the way through the movie, the cast revert from the Next Gen' two piece uniform to the Deep space nine style jump suit. In one scene, Picard is wearing the old style, while Riker is talking to him dressed in the new style. Why are the senior officers wearing two different uniforms? The Jump suits were the new uniforms the old style ones were being phased out so some uniforms may either not have been issued yet or were being replicated/washed/altered during the course of the movie.
- In Star Trek TNG's 4th or 5th season, they bring Scotty back for an episode under the pretence that he put himself into a continuous feedback loop in the transporter in order to survive a crash. The episode was called 'relics'. When Geordi, Worf, and Ryker beam down, the free him from the transporter. As soon as Riker says that he is from the starship Enterprise, Scotty immediately says 'the Enterprise. I'll bet old Jim Kirk himself dragged her out of mothballs to come looking for me'. But wait. In Star Trek Generations (the movie), Scotty was on the Enterprise B when (he believed) Jim was pulled out of the ship when the Nexus (which no-one understood, at the time) collided with the ship. So, as far as Scotty is aware, Jim is dead. So why the statement in Relics about Jim being around to come looking for Scotty? When they free Scotty from the transporter loop, Geordi says something like it has suffered less than 1% degradation. Obviously, the memory of Kirk's death was in that 1%.Corrected by Grumpy Scot
- Chris Thomas on Thursday, December 30, 1999 - 10:30 pm: When everyone's scrambling for the saucer section, does no one think that perhaps the escape pods might offer a better chance of survival than half a starship plummeting down to a crash landing on a planet? They can't all be in the other section that exploded; that would be poor design in a starship that has separating ability. Their ejection systems may be offline. Even if they could be launched, they may not be able to travel far enough away before the warp core explodes.
- LUIGI NOVI on Monday, May 14, 2001 - 11:08 pm: Data asks to be deactivated in Stellar Cartography, and Picard refuses. Can't Data request a leave of absence due to emotional trouble? Are crew members required to report such illness or trouble that might jeopardize their performance? Hasn't Data’s condition already contribute to Geordi's being kidnapped? Isn't Data doing the right thing by being honest to Picard, and requesting deactivation? ( Yeah, yeah, I know, it makes for a dramatically powerful moment, etc.) It might not be possible for Data to take a leave of absence, due to the urgency of the situation.
- The planet’s atmosphere hinders the Enterprise's ability to locate where Picard and Soran are on the planet's surface. Uh, Data, don't you already know where the Ribbon is going to pass over the planet after the destruction of the Star? Didn't you figure it out in Stellar Cartography? Wouldn’t Soran be there? Poor Data. All these new emotions are just RUINING him! The Stellar Cartography graphic wasn't detailed enough to determine exactly where on the planet Soran would be grabbed by the ribbon.
- My Challenges to Phil’s nits from the NextGen Guide, vol II: Plot Oversight#9: Soran incapacitates Geordi and Data on the observatory and destroys the star. What happened to the rest of the away team? Data and Geordi are the away team. What information establishes that there were more people besides them? Riker's comment to Worf about sending Data and Geordi with the next away team, (my emphasis) after the Klingon reveals the reason for the Romulans attacking the observatory.
- John A. Lang on Thursday, May 24, 2001 - 7:01 pm: When the Enterprise arrives at Armagosa, WHY didn't Picard order someone to fire a torpedo at a DECLOAKING BIRD OF PREY...hey, dummy...if a BOP is cloaked, they will attack. I know they don't but why didn't the Enterprise intercept Lursa's transmission about "Give us your coordinates"..Hey, moron....This means Soran is trying to ESCAPE! (Hello!) Destroying the BOP would defeat any escape for Soran except the Enterprise...give Picard a great big dunce cap for his ignorance for not taking more aggressive action. Even if they could locate the BOP while it was still cloaked, destroying it would have resulted in Geordi getting killed.
- ↑ In case you haven't seen the movie, Harriman keeps telling Kirk that all the good stuff - tractor beam, medical staff, photon torpedoes - will be installed on Tuesday.
- ↑ Because it wasn’t in the script, and if they did, La Forge would not have had time to install Data's emotion chip.
- ↑ One potential explanation is that the ribbon only provides an opening to the Nexus under some very specific circumstances, but the plot never addresses this crucial issue. (Via IMDB entry)
- ↑ Note to all nitpickers: Before you write me, remember the Nitpicker’s Prime Directive: “All nits picked shall derive from sources the creators consider canonical." Rough drafts of scripts are not canonical. They may explain some questions, but only the events we see on the screen actually happen.
- ↑ Indeed, a scene showing Soran admitting this was shot, but not included in the final film. (This would also explain Soran's later 'heart wasn't in it' remark to the Duras sisters).
- ↑ Well, actually...Starfleet uniforms and panty hose - in the horse riding scene - if William Shatner is to be believed.
- ↑ The real problem here is time. Whenever you construct a story and give a character control over time, it is inevitable that a multitude of plot over-sights will arise.
- ↑ Of course, one could argue that Picard never really left the Nexus. Given that this Nexus can supply any fantasy desired, how would you know what was real?
- ↑ There is nothing to discount Kirk receiving a temporary reduction in rank to Captain, in order to carry out another five year mission after the V'Ger incident.
- ↑ As a side note, Nitpicker Paul F. Kane asked if Morgan Bateson was still the captain, or was he doing a radio show out of Seattle? (In “Cause and Effect," Kelsey Grammer - star of the television sitcom Frasier, featuring a radio talk show psychiatrist - played Bateson.)
- ↑ Alternatively, they could have created a new and easily removable chip, containing a full copy of the emotion program.
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